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ketosis
Aug 23, 2014 1:56:25 GMT -5
Post by monique on Aug 23, 2014 1:56:25 GMT -5
Ketosis has quite an appeal to me. I might have been in ketosis accidentally while on AIP, and that felt wonderful. I saw on Paleomom facebook a post recently calling for people's experience with ketosis. I am concerned about (longterm?) ketosis though with adrenal fatigue and/or auto-immune issues, IBS etcetera. Can anyone point to sites where there is useful info about this? I have searched (Chris Kesser and many others) but there seem contradictions. Also read Jimmy Moore's new book but that doesn't touch on health issues like adrenal fatigue (or I might overlooked it?) I read a post here by a moderator who got into severe adrenal problems after going into ketosis. (cannot trace that post) Also are there reliable websites on how much carb-food to eat with some concrete starters guideines? I find it nearly impossible to convert real food into carbs-grammes. By the way would that be Sarah's next book topic? I hope so!
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Post by paleoprincess on Aug 23, 2014 3:36:57 GMT -5
Hi Monique. A ketogenic diet is typically 20-30g net carbs (total carbs - fibre), generally <100g protein depending on your body weight, and the rest of your calories from fat. Keto Clarity should set tbat out fairlty clearly. You may find an app like myfitnesspal, mynetdiary or ketodietapp useful to track carbs for you. I am recovering from stage 3/4 adrenal fatigue, and I have a number of food intolerances for which I follow AIP. I started eating a LCHF (but not quite keto) diet about 10 months ago to to manage gut dysbiosis. I was still severely adrenally fatigued at the time, and that macronutrient ratio worked great for me. I had much more energy and the minimal carbs kept me 'stable' all day (one of the issues I've had with my AF is massive adrenaline rushes. Cutting carbs really helped with that). With AF it is critically important to keep your insulin levels stable. For this reason most people with AF feel best by eating small frequent meals with lots of protein and fat, and less carbs. Recently I have changed to a keto ratio (more fat and less protein than I was eating before), and I feel great. I did a lot of research into keto, but I could only find a few anecdotal stories about it causing AF. There is some debate about whether your attempt keto if you have a thyroid issue. Jimmy Moore's LLVLC blog has some good articles on that. There are so many benefits to being keto adapted. If you've done your research, I say why not just try it for a while? If you find that you're not responding well then just stop. If you were really concerned about AF, I would suggest having a cortisol saliva test done, then test again after a few months of keto and check if you've had any change in cortisol.
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Post by monique on Aug 23, 2014 16:19:35 GMT -5
Hi Paleoprincess Thanks for sharing your personal experience! That's valuable info. I am going to study everything a bit more and let you know! all the best Monique
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ketosis
Aug 25, 2014 3:41:10 GMT -5
Post by monique on Aug 25, 2014 3:41:10 GMT -5
www.thepaleomom.com/2014/08/chronic-stress-leads-hormone-imbalance.htmljust read this blog and listened to the video of Sarah's talk at Ancestral health. Answers many of questions! What a timing....again.....Getting to read Paleo Approach was great timing and now involved in " tinkering" what works best for me (peri/post menopausal), this lecture comes as another big gift! It also gave me answers (cortisol! " it all works together" ;-)) as to why I have had through out my life long phases of amennorhea and endometriosis (....very thankful... I did become -unexpectedly- a mother..... also very thankful those difficult menstrual phases are in the past and I wear my grey hair as a "medal of honor" ;-)) That there are not many studies on peri/post menopausal women and Lc/keto diets is also an affirmation for me just to listen very careful to my own body (again...;-)). I have come to the conclusion now that high fat/moderate to low carbs within the AIP-protocol is very very beneficial for me. I just need to find that sweet amount of carbs: too little or too many influence my sleep directly. That's what I have discovered. It doesn't necessarily mean I need to be in a ketogenic state (takes too much time counting carbs anyway) just that I need to be very aware about my carb intake. THANK YOU SARAH!!! ps Sarah: about the Ancestral link question: there are anthropological studies about African hunter-gatherer tribes where once women needed to use the fat in their buttocks fertility would drop directly. These instances announced a phase of little food. So women's bodies made sure that they did not get pregnant or needed to lactate in difficult circumstances. These instances were either seasonal or in cycles of every few years. So in these tribes a ketogenic state was a temporary "emergency" state, for women.
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Post by paleoprincess on Aug 25, 2014 5:22:10 GMT -5
I loved that post too. I haven't got around to watching the AH talk yet though. There isn't much good research on women and keto. I think you've got the right attitude to just pay attention to your body and work out what's best for you. You do need a certain amount of cortisol to convert protein and fat (or carbs for that matter) to glucose. So maybe keto isn't the best thing if you're already under a lot of stress, but might be OK if your stress levels are low. When I was eating more carbs, my basic rule of thumb was to minimise my intake as much as possible, but eat more when my body told me to (ie I gave into my carb cravings). My problem is that once I start eating carbs it's hard for me to stop!
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