missmariah
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honey
Apr 16, 2014 23:49:43 GMT -5
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Post by missmariah on Apr 16, 2014 23:49:43 GMT -5
Honey, yes or no? And I thought nitrate free bacon was ok...
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Post by localkaty on Apr 17, 2014 7:27:27 GMT -5
Honey is okay - Sarah talks about honey and other concentrated sugars here and here - but it's still a sugar and is probably best kept at a fairly minimal dose. Bacon is fine too, as long as you can source it well.
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Apr 17, 2014 9:43:51 GMT -5
Post by EJ on Apr 17, 2014 9:43:51 GMT -5
Bacon is fine. It would be best if it were pastured, but some of us eat what we can find and afford. If you buy conventional bacon, use it sparingly-I avoid any recipe that uses a pound at a time A wise woman once said, "Use it as a condiment"-to add flavor, not as a food itself. And here's an article about why nitrates/nitrites may not matter as much as everyone thinks: chriskresser.com/the-nitrate-and-nitrite-myth-another-reason-not-to-fear-baconHoney is okay "in moderation." You should try to buy raw, unfiltered, local honey, if possible. I've heard if it's local it can help you with your local seasonal allergies.
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honey
Apr 17, 2014 13:01:25 GMT -5
Post by salixisme on Apr 17, 2014 13:01:25 GMT -5
Honey yes - try to buy local, raw unfiltered honey.
bacon is a yes for me as well, although some people say no. I figure if it comes from pastured pigs, the salt and sugar (and nitrates) that are used in the cure are only present in very small amounts in each rasher.
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Apr 17, 2014 16:35:02 GMT -5
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Post by missmariah on Apr 17, 2014 16:35:02 GMT -5
Thanks! I do buy local honey and have been using it in my fat bombs and have two of those a day...trying to get my coconut oil in!
Thank God on the bacon! Lol... my MIL picked up a paleo book for me at the library and it said no honey or bacon which contridicted everything I've read.
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honey
Apr 17, 2014 16:46:22 GMT -5
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Post by Erin on Apr 17, 2014 16:46:22 GMT -5
Thank God on the bacon! Lol... my MIL picked up a paleo book for me at the library and it said no honey or bacon which contridicted everything I've read. Curious. Which book?I'm echoing everything said above. Yes to honey, in moderation - raw and local if you can. Bacon, sure. Sugar is not needed in a cure though. I make my own {well, so does my husband. we have his and hers bacon in our home lol!} curing with just sea salt and seasoning. Sugar only offsets the saltiness of the cure. I prefer it without sugar. Taste buds DO change
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Post by greystorms on Apr 18, 2014 17:54:54 GMT -5
Sugar is often used to cure bacon, but the fact that it's used in the curing process doesn't mean that there is any sugar left on the final product. I've looked up the ingredients on Hormel Black Label bacon before, and the nutrition label lists 0g of sugar per serving, even though it's on the ingredients list. While we like to get our bacon from an amazing local place(pastured and everything, it's fantastic), I personally think that there's nothing wrong with occasional grocery store bacon.
I think a lot of people have this misconception that because bacon is cured with sugar, it means that the slices of bacon you cook in your pan or oven will also have sugar in/on them, which generally isn't true.
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Post by localkaty on Apr 18, 2014 18:10:16 GMT -5
Sugar is often used to cure bacon, but the fact that it's used in the curing process doesn't mean that there is any sugar left on the final product. This is true! Sugar is used in cures to tenderize meat, feed lactobacillus, and temper the taste of the salt. Any left over after the curing process is typically brushed or rinsed away. As long as cured meats don't taste sweet, it's safe to assume they aren't adding sugar to your diet.
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missmariah
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Apr 18, 2014 21:00:56 GMT -5
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Post by missmariah on Apr 18, 2014 21:00:56 GMT -5
The paleo diet cookbook! That's the name of the book my MIL got me.
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Post by Erin on Apr 18, 2014 22:36:27 GMT -5
Hmm well comparing our sugar free cured bacon to any bacon I've had that uses sugar, molasses, maple syrup, etc. I can taste the difference. It also caramelizes faster while cooking. While there may not be much sugar in the end product, I prefer it without.
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honey
Apr 19, 2014 11:05:54 GMT -5
Post by EJ on Apr 19, 2014 11:05:54 GMT -5
Yes, The Paleo Diet Cookbook by Loren Cordain had some "interesting" things in it. Like he doesn't include salt in ANY of his recipes-blech. And that was the updated version (I got it as a gift...not my top choice). missmariah, you should know that Dr. Cordain does have a different view toward several Paleo points and hasn't been as quick to adapt as some of the other Paleo researchers (Chris Kresser, Robb Wolf, etc.). He advocates for lean meats all the time-but I've heard it explained that he says that because he knows fatty, grass-fed meats are okay, but most people won't buy them or can't afford them. So his message is only lean meats. But obviously, that's incomplete because if you can afford grass-fed fatty cuts of meat (like bacon!), you should eat them. Variety is very important in our diet-and so are healthy animal fats.
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Apr 19, 2014 11:32:53 GMT -5
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Post by missmariah on Apr 19, 2014 11:32:53 GMT -5
Yes, The Paleo Diet Cookbook by Loren Cordain had some "interesting" things in it. Like he doesn't include salt in ANY of his recipes-blech. And that was the updated version (I got it as a gift...not my top choice). missmariah, you should know that Dr. Cordain does have a different view toward several Paleo points and hasn't been as quick to adapt as some of the other Paleo researchers (Chris Kresser, Robb Wolf, etc.). He advocates for lean meats all the time-but I've heard it explained that he says that because he knows fatty, grass-fed meats are okay, but most people won't buy them or can't afford them. So his message is only lean meats. But obviously, that's incomplete because if you can afford grass-fed fatty cuts of meat (like bacon!), you should eat them. Variety is very important in our diet-and so are healthy animal fats.
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Apr 19, 2014 11:34:46 GMT -5
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Post by missmariah on Apr 19, 2014 11:34:46 GMT -5
Yeah not impressed with the book! Glad it's from the library...
Well I've just been buying nitrate free bacon and going with that....
Thanks for all the insight!
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